407 – Brothers

In what may have been the hottest summer on record, Chris, Julie and I sweated it out in a hotel room, talking about brothers. Chris goes in depth into his life before and after his brother’s sudden passing, the impact of The Laundromat on his current relationships, and just how many video game he played growing up. Julie doesn’t sit back either–she prods, adds, and for some reason, gives multiple shout-outs to her sister who is NOT in the audience.

This episode is a long ‘un but if you’ve ever wondered what Chris from my doc is up to now or how to grow out from under someone’s long shadow, keep listening!

EPISODE NOTES
Recorded in 2017, mild spoilers for GOT sprinkled throughout

SOUND ENGINEER
Vanessa Yee

POST SOUND EDITOR AND MIXER
Karolina Esqueda, Vanessa Yee

COMPOSER
Deborah Lee Proaño

 

Episode 407 – Brothers

 

406 – Happily Ever After?

When you survive the worst of high school, oftentimes you gain needed allies in the fight ahead. That ally for The Bull & The Badger was none other than Danielle Colayco, and the worst of high school was apparently AP Bio. Just like in this podcast, we got through it with laughter, tears, and lots of conversation. Danielle shares about surviving post-partum depression, an already tough experience that coincided with the passing of her father. She doesn’t hold back the details on some of the toughest moments of her life.

Danielle was then and is now a hero to The Bull & The Badger for her vulnerability, openness and courage. (And just as importantly her amazing memory for AP Bio facts and humor.) Please enjoy this episode with one of our favorite humans.

EPISODE NOTES:
-Recorded in 2016
-Suicide hotline number: 1-800-273-8255 (also online chat available)

SOUND ENGINEER
Vanessa Yee

POST SOUND EDITOR AND MIXER
Karolina Esqueda

COMPOSER
Deborah Lee Proaño

Special Thanks:
Mr. Wilkes

Episode 406 – Happily Ever After?

**Post episode message from DC**
[This is] to anyone listening who may be experiencing some of what we’ve talked about. I myself was in denial of my symptoms, which started in the hospital 1-2 days after giving birth. I was crying uncontrollably, and the nurse asked me “is it the pain?” (I had a C-section) and I was too ashamed to say that I was feeling sad (who feels sad after having a baby?) so I lied and said yes. So they increased the dose of my pain medication. It’s much easier to complain of physical pain than emotional pain, because there’s no stigma associated with physical symptoms.

They also administered a depression screening questionnaire in the hospital and I lied on that too, because I was afraid they’d call someone in for a psych consult– which is exactly what I needed, but I was terrified at the time. I didn’t want to be associated with the women in the news who drown their babies in the bathtub or drive themselves and their kids over a cliff [note: most of these cases are actually driven by psychosis, which also occurs but is much more rare than depression/anxiety]. People hear those stories and immediately demonize the mothers, not realizing that as humans, we all have the capacity to go to dark places. But it doesn’t have to get to that point if you get treated.

So be honest with yourself. Not everyone feels happy after giving birth. It’s not always like in the movies when the mother immediately starts weeping with joy upon seeing her baby.

And cut yourself some slack. You’ve just endured 10 months of pregnancy, followed by the trauma of childbirth. And then you need to stay awake 24/7 to feed and care for a helpless newborn. It’s enough to send most people to their edge, and a great many of us will go beyond that edge. You’re not alone, and you don’t have to hide it. Don’t try to tough it out yourself. Get help, because the good news is that it’s treatable.

 

405 – Online Dating

The Bull & The Badger swim in the emotionally treacherous but equally exciting waters of Online Dating for a special episode recorded on the road. If you’ve ever wondered, “Am I doing this right?” You are not alone. April gives insight from her own experiences while Vanessa ponders some commonplace questions that you didn’t want to voice aloud for their commonplace-ishness. Learn something new or nod along to the saga that is…online dating!!!

NOTE: Episode recorded in 2017

SOUND ENGINEER
Vanessa Yee

POST SOUND EDITOR AND MIXER
Karolina Esqueda

COMPOSER
Deborah Lee Proaño

Special Thanks:
TRW

 

Episode 405 — Online Dating

404 – Race and Allyship

A year ago the Badger sat down with Dom and Minh to rain down her questions–where do Asian Americans fit into the more black&white binary race discussions in America? Do labels around race and class and other categories create more harm than good? How do I support other minorities if I don’t feel like I can speak for them?

Many of the questions asked then about cultural and political identity, sensitive race conversations, and the ideas of allyship vs. privilege are still questions we’re grappling with today. Listen in as this week’s guests answer with grace, humor and a tremendous amount of humility.

SOUND EQUIPMENT SPECIALIST
John Nobori, Independent Sound Designer/Mixer/Composer

COMPOSER
Deborah Lee Proaño

ENGINEER, POST SOUND EDITOR AND MIXER
Vanessa Yee

Special Thanks to 2nd Eyes:
BK
CLS

 

Episode 404 — Race and Allyship with Dom & Minh

403 – Vulnerability (with John Nobori)

April and John dredge up embarrassing moments in their personal histories in this exploration of vulnerability. Why is it so hard and yet so important to let ourselves be vulnerable? Grunt and squeak along with the Bull and the Butterfly!

SOUND EQUIPMENT SPECIALISTS
John Nobori, Independent Sound Designer/Mixer/Composer

COMPOSER
Deborah Lee Proaño

POST SOUND EDITOR AND MIXER
John Nobori

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402 – Sisters (with Ana Akana)

In a Confucian-influenced Asian Am culture, there’s not much discussion of sisters, so we asked Anna Akana to bring all the facts and all the feels. In this podcast she candidly details how her younger sister’s suicide became the before and after moment for her identity as a sister and her transition into adulthood. And as the big sister to a generation of kids who increasingly turn to the internet for advice, we’re glad she stands as a shining beacon of vulnerability, courage, and introspection. Anna also breaks down her approaches to stand-up, YouTube content creation, and her newest book. It’s basically, the mother –or sister??– of all podcasts, because we ran that gamut.

Her book So Much I want to Tell You: Letters to My Little Sister is available on Amazon and all major book retailers. And if you want to learn more about where her next stand-up show is or her cogent thoughts on yellow fever, see the links below.
SOUND EQUIPMENT SPECIALISTS
John Nobori, Independent Sound Designer/Mixer/Composer

COMPOSER
Deborah Lee Proaño

POST SOUND EDITOR AND MIXER
John Nobori

401 – Ch-ch-changes (with John Nobori co-host!)

A new year means an all-new season of The Bull & The Badger! Now with 33.3% more host, 18% more singing, and 15% more fiber for your diet.

We have so much in store for you that we’ve decided to post an intro episode to make sure you can emotionally handle all the amazing things coming in May (Asian Am History Month) when we officially start the weekly releases. Until then, please enjoy an amuse-bouche of Season 4 where we reveal podcast plot twists and hopes for the coming year.

SOUND EQUIPMENT SPECIALISTS
John Nobori, Independent Sound Designer/Mixer/Composer
Austin Quan and Nicholas Tong, Circular Rhythm Productions

COMPOSER
Deborah Lee Proaño

POST SOUND EDITOR AND MIXER
John Nobori

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313 – Podluck (with Barrett Korerat)

Did someone say longanisa? You bet. Join Vanessa, April, and return guest Barrett Korerat as we bid adieu to season 3 the only way we know how: with massive amounts of food–food from our cultural heritage, that is. Please excuse our mouth sounds, burps, and slurps! We can’t help ourselves as we chow down and talk about what these foods mean to us.

SOUND EQUIPMENT SPECIALISTS
John Nobori, Independent Sound Designer/Mixer/Composer
Austin Quan and Nicholas Tong, Circular Rhythm Productions

COMPOSER
Deborah Lee Proaño

POST SOUND EDITOR AND MIXER
John Nobori

Link

312 Late Bloomers – (with Sarvi Chan)

Do you feel like you’re always running a little behind the pack? If so, fear not! Sarvi — filmmaker, baker, and mom — teaches us how to embrace the life of the late bloomer. We talk about pressure coming from the community, that time Sarvi broke her therapist, and giving ourselves time to grow up, however slowly.

SOUND EQUIPMENT SPECIALISTS
John Nobori, Independent Sound Designer/Mixer/Composer
Austin Quan and Nicholas Tong, Circular Rhythm Productions

COMPOSER
Deborah Lee Proaño

POST SOUND EDITOR AND MIXER
John Nobori

Link

311 – The Big Reveal (with Jerell Rosales)

If you know who Jerell Rosales is, chances are, you’ve already fallen in love with him (who wouldn’t)? Television and film writer and director — not to mention the Bull and the Badger’s first Filipino-American guest — speaks about his youth passing as straight, his complicated views toward coming out, and his hilarious and heartfelt films you have to see.

SOUND EQUIPMENT SPECIALISTS
John Nobori, Independent Sound Designer/Mixer/Composer
Austin Quan and Nicholas Tong, Circular Rhythm Productions

COMPOSER
Deborah Lee Proaño

POST SOUND EDITOR AND MIXER
John Nobori

Link

310 – The Second Academic Life (with Josephine Green)

Does the thought of a hefty box of vocabulary words give you the sweats? Did you figure your killer GPA would mask your total lack of people skills? If you answered “yes” to either of these questions, you know all about the second life of Asian American students. Writer, comedian, and fellow soccer enthusiast, Josephine Green, fondly recollects all the tutors and SAT prep we know so well, and offers some alternatives to nonstop academia.

SOUND EQUIPMENT SPECIALISTS
John Nobori, Independent Sound Designer/Mixer/Composer
Austin Quan and Nicholas Tong, Circular Rhythm Productions

COMPOSER
Deborah Lee Proaño

POST SOUND EDITOR AND MIXER
John Nobori

Link

309 – Recovery (with Paul Matsushima)

When it comes to facing and overcoming our demons, we sometimes must seek guidance and support outisde our community. Paul Matsushima, a nonprofit worker and participant in the Laundromat documentary, speaks about his recovery journey and how he works to bring help to his own community. Come learn about Japanese American basketball leagues and more!

SOUND EQUIPMENT SPECIALISTS
John Nobori, Independent Sound Designer/Mixer/Composer
Austin Quan and Nicholas Tong, Circular Rhythm Productions

COMPOSER
Deborah Lee Proaño

POST SOUND EDITOR AND MIXER
John Nobori

Link

308 – Motherland (with Nini Jiang Wu)

“Who are you, China?” Nini Wu, Vanessa and April’s longtime friend and native daughter of Beijing, talks about China’s progress as a nation, the influx of wealthy immigrants to the U.S., and how to properly say the name of our favorite Asian Disney heroine. Tune in for podcast-breaking laughs and more.

SOUND EQUIPMENT SPECIALISTS
John Nobori, Independent Sound Designer/Mixer/Composer
Austin Quan and Nicholas Tong, Circular Rhythm Productions

COMPOSER
Deborah Lee Proaño

POST SOUND EDITOR AND MIXER
John Nobori

Link

307 – Then and Now (with Ann Matsushima Chiu)

Sometimes it takes a big push to process trauma, and sometimes that big push comes from your very own Vanessa Yee. Ann Matsushima Chu, a zinester based in Portland, reflects on how participating in The Laundromat changed her life. Ann used art to express the pain of her terminated pregnancy, and her newfound voice helps others do the same. Plus: bonus baby babbling!

SOUND EQUIPMENT SPECIALISTS
John Nobori, Independent Sound Designer/Mixer/Composer
Austin Quan and Nicholas Tong, Circular Rhythm Productions

COMPOSER
Deborah Lee Proaño

POST SOUND EDITOR AND MIXER
John Nobori

Link

306 – Inner Strength (with Judy Phu)

April and Vanessa squabble over what it means to have inner strength, while special guest and film maker Judy tells us about her parents’ journey to the United States, what makes her wake up excited every day, and how she channeled her inner Veronica Mars to solve the case of the burgled apartment.

SOUND EQUIPMENT SPECIALISTS
John Nobori, Independent Sound Designer/Mixer/Composer
Austin Quan and Nicholas Tong, Circular Rhythm Productions

COMPOSER
Deborah Lee Proaño

POST SOUND EDITOR AND MIXER
John Nobori

Link

305 – Dad (with Ken Fong)

It’s an Asian-American podcast crossover! Vanessa and April talk with Ken Fong, senior pastor of Evergreen Baptist Church of Los Angeles, executive director of the Asian American Initiative at Fuller Theological Seminary, and host of “Asian America: The Ken Fong Podcast.” We broach the subject of dads, Ken’s dad, Ken as a dad, Asian dads, and the stew of repressed emotions so many of us grew up in. Plus, bonus Joy Luck Club quote-ery!

SOUND EQUIPMENT SPECIALISTS

John Nobori, Independent Sound Designer/Mixer/Composer
Austin Quan and Nicholas Tong, Circular Rhythm Productions

COMPOSER
Deborah Lee Proaño

POST SOUND EDITOR AND MIXER
John Nobori

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304 – Food Part Deux (with Edwin Goei)

How much is too much to spend on pho? Is Orange County really a culinary wasteland? Let’s put aside the issue of Asian-American mental health for a second and feast on foodie talk. April meets her OC culinary guru, Edwin Geoi, the OC Weekly food critic whose razor-sharp wit and versatile palate have been helping diners discover good eats since the days of Chowhound. We take on food fads, good sushi, bad fusion, and more. Nom.

SOUND EQUIPMENT SPECIALISTS
John Nobori, Independent Sound Designer/Mixer/Composer
Austin Quan and Nicholas Tong, Circular Rhythm Productions

COMPOSER
Deborah Lee Proaño

POST SOUND EDITOR AND MIXER
John Nobori

Link

303 – Stress & Panic (with Saeng Duongdara)

Ah, college. Scenic walks to class, all-you-can-eat dining halls, and of course, soul-crushing anxiety and stress. Thankfully, there are people like Saeng Duongdara, who guide us through this huge life transition. Saeng, a college counselor talks to The Bull and the Badger about his career and how he helps others and himself.

SOUND EQUIPMENT SPECIALISTS
John Nobori, Independent Sound Designer/Mixer/Composer
Esteban Proaño, Sound Producer/Mixer/Composer
Austin Quan and Nicholas Tong, Circular Rhythm Productions

COMPOSER
Deborah Lee Proaño

POST SOUND EDITOR AND MIXER
John Nobori

Link

302 – Mom (with Atsuko Okatsuka)

She’s a comedian, a documentarian, a dancer, a teacher…what can’t Atsuko Okatsuka do? The answer is NOTHING. (Duh.) We talk to one of Disoriented Comedy’s founders about her mom and her mom’s mom, the two stars of her film “In Waiting” about — you guessed it — moms.

SOUND EQUIPMENT SPECIALISTS
John Nobori, Independent Sound Designer/Mixer/Composer
Esteban Proaño, Sound Producer/Mixer/Composer
Austin Quan and Nicholas Tong, Circular Rhythm Productions

COMPOSER
Deborah Lee Proaño

POST SOUND EDITOR AND MIXER
John Nobori

Link

301 – Stories We Tell

Vanessa and April kick off the third season of The Bull and the Badger podcast with author Joy Huang Stoffers. Joy gives us the skinny on growing up biracial on the mean streets of suburban New Jersey and the exquisite and exquisitely painful process of writing and publishing her premiere novel, Whasian.

SOUND EQUIPMENT SPECIALISTS

John Nobori, Independent Sound Designer/Mixer/Composer

Austin Quan and Nicholas Tong, Circular Rhythm Productions

COMPOSER

Deborah Lee Proaño

POST SOUND EDITOR AND MIXER

John Nobori

Link

300 – While We Were Away

Did you miss us? We missed you! We missed each other! We missed the days of yore when California wasn’t completely melting.

To whet your appetite for the new season coming in 2016, The Bull and The Badger look back on Season 2 and discuss what’s in store for your listening pleasure. Bon appétit!

SOUND EQUIPMENT SPECIALISTS
John Nobori, Independent Sound Designer/Mixer/Composer
Austin Quan and Nicholas Tong, Circular Rhythm Productions

COMPOSER
Deborah Lee Proaño

Link

POST SOUND EDITOR AND MIXER
John Nobori

213 – Etiquette (with Eric Huang)

In the last episode of this season, The Bull and The Badger call on Eric Huang to help lay out the rules of good Asian Am etiquette. With its complex combo of hierachical relationships and centuries-old traditions, Asian Am etiquette could easily give Emily Post a polite headache. But the questions quickly go from what, to when and why, especially once we venture oustide of our family contexts. Look elsewhere if you want to properly hold your chopsticks, listen in if you have questions of navigation too!

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212 – API Female Body (with Steph Van)

It ain’t easy being a woman, and it gets even more complicated when you throw Asian American standards of beauty and femininity into the mix. Thankfully, Stephanie Van walks The Bull & The Badger through her journey from Asian import car model wannabe to empowered feminist warrior. (Spoiler alert: it wasn’t easy, and it involved lots of coupons.) We openly discuss struggles with who decides what is beautiful and what lessons we learned from our upbringing. Go ahead, we dare you to laugh and cry with us!

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211 – Humble Brag (with John Nobori)

Vanessa issues a challenge to April and their newest old guest, John Nobori: Explain how you prevent humble-bragging and false modesty in your life. They’re cultural norms that many APIs live, and Vanessa, at least, has not figured out how to navigate them. To discuss these two sides of the same coin, The Bull and The Badger run the gamut of exploring self-worth and zombie apocalypses. Crustacean marriages and Les Miserables also come into play, but listen to how it all fits together.

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210 – Power Asians (with Jade)

With great power comes great responsibility… and for most Asians, it’s easier to recognize the responsibility and forget that we have real power and influence. Jade discusses how she is using the title Attorney Esquire to create change in her community. But every hero has a backstory, so first we put her on the stand to explain her pathway through the halls of social justice, and of course, we reminisce (or mis-reminisce) about how Arcadia helped her get there. She braved monkeys to be on our podcast, so take heed, listeners! Jade knows what she’s about!

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209 – Holding Space

When do you give advice and when do you listen? April and Vanessa discuss this tricky decision, covering what it means to hold space, or in other words, to listen without judgement. With so many cool facets to the act of holding space, it can still be difficult to break free of the API binary of being told what to do or being told nothing at all. What motivates us to choose one approach over the other? What do you do when your advice is refused? How come people can’t see that we’re ALWAYS right? Find out makes The Bull and The Badger tick (or at least what ticks them off) when they’re on the side of the listener or the advisor.

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208 – White Folk (with Katy French and Jonathan Rowell)

Witness Katy French and Jonathan Rowell (Straight White Males Comedy) make The Bull & The Bagder history: TWO guests, TWO non-Asians, ONE AMAZING GOOD TIME. After The Bull and The Badger find out the origins of Straight White Males, we interrogate Katy and Jonathan about “hipster racism” and cultural appropriation, how to order Vietnamese food as white people, and cultural identity as an American in a “post-racial” world. Once you tune in, consider yourselves truly gentrified and acculturated.

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207 – Fight! (with Jennifer Yip)

What gets you riled up? When do discussions turn into fightin’ words? What happens when the Badger is put into a room full of tables? The Bull and The Badger stoke the fires of emotion with their friend Jennifer Yip. Together the three examine what it means to fight like an Asian (hint: not karate) and what’s at the heart of their anger management styles. If you’re wondering how you can channel that Angry Asian Rage or find a way to quench some of that fiery thirst for retribution, listen in as April and Vanessa learn a little more about themselves and their instincts to fight.

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206 – Fitting In (with Barrett Korerat)

One of The Bull & The Badger’s least favorite F-words is “Fitting In.” The phrase can often stir up old regrets or hilarious bouts of nostalgia. April and Vanessa dip deep into both ends of these treacherous waters with their friend Barrett. As a person of mixed heritage, Barrett has frequently negotiated the dance of fitting in with success, but how does being one of the crowd affect our happiness and how do we raise the next generation to find their own path? Some of the answers involve Kung-fu, Miami Vice, and Joss Whedon. Wait, wait, don’t tell me… there’s more inside!

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205 – Asians in Film and TV (with Daniel Phai)

If you’re like April and Vanessa, you immediately zero in on the token Asian in film and TV. But with shows like Fresh Off the Boat and Hawaii Five-O, and talent like John Cho and Steven Yeun leading the way on the small screen, seeing a face that looks like yours is slowly becoming a daily reality. To discuss the difficulties and triumphs for Asians in media, The Bull & The Badger brought in Daniel Phai, a working actor in Los Angeles. He explains his own miraculous journey into this tricky career and issues a challenge of his own to April and Vanessa. Find out if they succeed or if the two PHAI-L real hard.

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204 – Interracial Relationships (with Michelle)

Though the Bull and the Badger have danced around the topic before (like the good Asians we are), April and Vanessa are joined by their good friend Michelle to approach the issue head on…Interracial Relationships! How and why do they happen at a higher rate for Asians/Asian Americans than other ethnic minorities? What does it mean when we date “outside the race”? Did we learn nothing from Joy Luck Club?? Amidst the JLC references, we also explore fried chicken, bubble pipes and love maps. Yes, one podcast to rule them all!

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203 – Burnout (with Jenny Yang)

Jenny Yang of Disoriented Comedy takes a break from her overachieving comedy lifestyle to wax humorous on a serious issue within the API community. Jenny, April and Vanessa ask themselves, “Who wouldn’t want to listen to three Asian Americans talk about burnout?” More specifically, Jenny discusses her own intense battle with burnout, the signs that you’re experiencing it right now, and some useful strategies to combat life fatigue. Get your pencils ready to take notes on this Burnout Battle Breakdown.

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202 – Holidays

Oh, the holidays … times of good cheer and goodwill toward men or pressure cookers for tense family situations and hurt feelings? The holidays and looking toward the new year can be a mixed bag, so April and Vanessa converse about their own experiences and strategies when spending time with family. Then, they try to make resolutions. Listen to the saga unfold here!

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201 – Flow (with John Nobori)

The Bull & The Badger start their second season of mouth sounds with a huge helping of laughter and deep thoughts on the topic of FLOW — What is flow? How can we achieve it? How is it connected to our long-term health and happiness?

To find out, tune in as April and Vanessa discuss the matter with John “Wayne” Nobori, our very special first guest of the new season, and more importantly, our amazing new collaborator. To all of our listeners out there, we hope you find your flow state!

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112 – Friendship (with Eric Huang)

More Eric! More in-depth discussion! More of those things April and Vanessa love. This time the topic is friendship and all the fuzzy and not-so-fuzzy things you may encounter in those relationships. (Take it from people who have been friends for more than 10 years.) “Friendship is born at that moment when one man says to another: “What! You too? I thought that no one but myself . . .”” — CS Lewis

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